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GMCHARLT [...] cpan.org
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Broken in:
0.91
Fixed in:
0.88



Subject: Missing Copyright Information
Hi: Previously there was copyright information in the README, which was removed somewhere between 0.88 and 0.91 (from the diff). @@ -25,8 +25,6 @@ This module requires these other modules COPYRIGHT AND LICENCE -Copyright (C) 2003,2004 Ed Summers - This library is free software; you can redistribute it and/or modify it under the same terms as Perl itself. This is a problem for redistribution in Debian, where we had previously used that copyright for the package. I'm curious what the new copyright is (in particular, we need years of copyright, names and e-mail addresses of the copyright holders). Hopefully it will include information about past releases. Hopefully this information can be extracted from your Changes file... Anyway, unfortunately we cannot upgrade the Debian package for this module until we get the clarification. A note on this bug report is fine. Thanks in advance :-) Cheers, Jonathan
Should be fixed in v0.92 just uploaded to CPAN.
Hi, On Thu Jul 30 16:32:54 2009, FREQUENCY wrote:
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> I'm curious what the new copyright is (in particular, we need years of > copyright, names and e-mail addresses of the copyright holders). > Hopefully it will include information about past releases. Hopefully > this information can be extracted from your Changes file...
I'll be pushing out another release (0.93) to add the names. Is "(c) <dates> Ed Summers and contributors" sufficient for Debian's purposes, or do you need a complete list of names? Note that we historically haven't bothered to require contributors to formally assign copyright to Ed or any other entity.
Hi Galen: Thanks for the quick response :-) On Fri Jul 31 10:27:30 2009, GMCHARLT wrote:
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> Hi, > > On Thu Jul 30 16:32:54 2009, FREQUENCY wrote:
> > I'm curious what the new copyright is (in particular, we need years of > > copyright, names and e-mail addresses of the copyright holders). > > Hopefully it will include information about past releases. Hopefully > > this information can be extracted from your Changes file...
> > I'll be pushing out another release (0.93) to add the names. Is "(c) > <dates> Ed Summers and contributors" sufficient for Debian's purposes, > or do you need a complete list of names? Note that we historically > haven't bothered to require contributors to formally assign copyright to > Ed or any other entity.
We have various packages that have done that, I think even copyrighting it to Ed Summers should be OK. On the other hand I'm not a lawyer. Looking at the changelog it looks like you could also assign copyright for at least 1999-2000 to Bill Birthisel <wcbirthisel@alum.mit.edu> Another issue (and unfortunately I don't have the answer to this) is determining who holds copyright on contributed patches. If you keep track of this in a VCS it might be useful to check the logs to see who has contributed, too. In general it's helpful to have copyright information because legally speaking you'll need it if you ever decide to relicense the software (you need all copyright holders to agree). I would also assume that anyone contributing that doesn't explictly add a copyright statement is OK with just assigning copyright to the original author, Ed Summers, but the Berne Convention disagrees, and that's where things get a bit complicated. In any event, Copyright <years of copyright>, Ed Summers <email@address> is better than nothing. Preferably if you have a ballpark figure (ie, some years) that major contributions were made by others, then that would help (and the changelog is good for that). Unfortunately, it looks like even Ed Summers might not have been the original author, or perhaps he asked someone else to upload the package. Going back as far as CPAN had packages (BACKPAN would have more versions), here is the list of people who have released various versions of XML-MARC: Bill Birthisel, 0.25 0.3 0.4 (1999-2000) Ed Summers, 0.66 0.7 0.8 0.81 0.83 (2004-2006) Joshua Ferraro, 0.82 0.84 0.85 0.86 0.87 0.88_1 0.88 (2006-2007) Galen Charlton, 0.91 (2009) I suggest you might be able to use those to get some sense of the copyright years, so hopefully that helps :-) Cheers, Jonathan
Subject: Re: [rt.cpan.org #48333] Missing Copyright Information
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2009 17:31:26 -0400
To: bug-MARC-XML@rt.cpan.org
From: bbirthisel@aol.com
I have no problems assigning it to Ed Summers (with or without "and contributers"). I am probably the one who put the copyright notice in originally since it was common and recommended practice for CPAN distributions and part of my contribution was "CPAN release experience".

-Bill Birthisel

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From: Jonathan Yu via RT <bug-MARC-XML@rt.cpan.org>
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Sent: Fri, Jul 31, 2009 10:43 am
Subject: [rt.cpan.org #48333] Missing Copyright Information

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Ticket <URL: https://rt.cpan.org/Ticket/Display.html?id=48333 >

Hi Galen:

Thanks for the quick response :-)

On Fri Jul 31 10:27:30 2009, GMCHARLT wrote:
> Hi,
>
> On Thu Jul 30 16:32:54 2009, FREQUENCY wrote:
> > I'm curious what the new copyright is (in particular, we need years of
> > copyright, names and e-mail addresses of the copyright holders).
> > Hopefully it will include information about past releases. Hopefully
> > this information can be extracted from your Changes file...
>
> I'll be pushing out another release (0.93) to add the names. Is "(c)
> <dates> Ed Summers and contributors" sufficient for Debian's purposes,
> or do you need a complete list of names? Note that we historically
> haven't bothered to require contributors to formally assign copyright to
> Ed or any other entity.

We have various packages that have done that, I think even copyrighting
it to Ed Summers should be OK. On the other hand I'm not a lawyer.
Looking at the changelog it looks like you could also assign copyright
for at least 1999-2000 to Bill Birthisel <wcbirthisel@alum.mit.edu>

Another issue (and unfortunately I don't have the answer to this) is
determining who holds copyright on contributed patches.

If you keep track of this in a VCS it might be useful to check the logs
to see who has contributed, too. In general it's helpful to have
copyright information because legally speaking you'll need it if you
ever decide to relicense the software (you need all copyright holders to
agree). I would also assume that anyone contributing that doesn't
explictly add a copyright statement is OK with just assigning copyright
to the original author, Ed Summers, but the Berne Convention disagrees,
and that's where things get a bit complicated.

In any event, Copyright <years of copyright>, Ed Summers <email@address>
is better than nothing. Preferably if you have a ballpark figure (ie,
some years) that major contributions were made by others, then that
would help (and the changelog is good for that). Unfortunately, it looks
like even Ed Summers might not have been the original author, or perhaps
he asked someone else to upload the package. Going back as far as CPAN
had packages (BACKPAN would have more versions), here is the list of
people who have released various versions of XML-MARC:

Bill Birthisel, 0.25 0.3 0.4 (1999-2000)
Ed Summers, 0.66 0.7 0.8 0.81 0.83 (2004-2006)
Joshua Ferraro, 0.82 0.84 0.85 0.86 0.87 0.88_1 0.88 (2006-2007)
Galen Charlton, 0.91 (2009)

I suggest you might be able to use those to get some sense of the
copyright years, so hopefully that helps :-)

Cheers,

Jonathan
Hi, On Fri Jul 31 10:43:00 2009, FREQUENCY wrote:
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> On Fri Jul 31 10:27:30 2009, GMCHARLT wrote:
> > On Thu Jul 30 16:32:54 2009, FREQUENCY wrote:
> > > I'm curious what the new copyright is (in particular, we need years of > > > copyright, names and e-mail addresses of the copyright holders). > > > Hopefully it will include information about past releases. Hopefully > > > this information can be extracted from your Changes file...
> > > > I'll be pushing out another release (0.93) to add the names. Is "(c) > > <dates> Ed Summers and contributors" sufficient for Debian's purposes, > > or do you need a complete list of names?
I've gone with (c) Ed Summers and contributors and uploaded 0.92 (note, not 0.93 after all) to CPAN. The metadata in META.yml and Makefile.PL now also indicate that the license is Perl (i.e., dual Artistic/GPL). Note that this is *not* a relicensing, just adding additional information for CPAN.


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