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Id: 39484
Status: resolved
Priority: 0/
Queue: CPAN-Reporter

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Requestors: SREZIC [...] cpan.org
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Subject: Enable CC again
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I think the decision to completely remove the CC feature from CPAN::Reporter and Test::Reporter is no rigorous. It's probably more useful to cut the use of CC down to a useful minimum. This would mean: - no CC from automated testers - CC should be never sent without interactive confirmation (that is, the cc_author value has to contain the "ask" string) - and the default should never be ask/yes but at most ask/no To force testers to review their current config.ini it could be useful to rename the cc_author configuration variable. I find having the possibility to still send CC to authors is useful, especially to point authors to specific reports, e.g. reports with an additional tester's comment. Otherwise it is possible that the tester's comment remains unnoticed. One could argue that RT would be a better place for such comments, but it is currently quite inconvenient to get from a fail report to the correct RT (or other bugtracker) tool to do so. Regards, Slaven
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CPAN Testers is migrating to centralized notification with author preferences. CC's will not be restored. Sorry. -- David
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On Sun Nov 16 22:41:50 2008, DAGOLDEN wrote: Show quoted text
> CPAN Testers is migrating to centralized notification with author > preferences. CC's will not be restored. Sorry.
Sorry to ask again (and re-open the ticket), but the centralized notification is not a sufficient replacement for all cases where a CC could be used. The centralized notification is good for automated smokers. But not everybody runs an automated smoker. The CC is good if I *want* to contact the author and am fine with a chat with him/her. Or if I put something into the tester's comments sections and want to be sure that it is read (I think the tester's comments can be easily overlooked in the centralized notification). And I am really not afraid of the authors --- there are only a handful who are known that they cannot deal with FAIL reports, and who won't get any CCs from me. Yes, I know that there's still the RT queue. But I find it rather inconvenient compared to the CC feature. Regards, Slaven
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The CC feature is *not* going to be restored, but perhaps there's another way to accomplish your goal. What if CPAN::Reporter had an option to copy *you* instead? E.g. cc_self = default:ask/no pass/na:no Then if you are testing manually and want to contact the author directly (not via centralized notification), then you can copy yourself and then forward the report to the author (or the RT queue). It requires two steps, yes, but is less likely to result in automated author spam by users who don't realize the implications of "cc_author". -- David
Subject: Re: [rt.cpan.org #39484] Enable CC again
Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2008 00:09:20 +0100
To: bug-CPAN-Reporter [...] rt.cpan.org
From: Slaven Rezic <slaven [...] rezic.de>
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"David Golden via RT" <bug-CPAN-Reporter@rt.cpan.org> writes: Show quoted text
> <URL: http://rt.cpan.org/Ticket/Display.html?id=39484 > > > The CC feature is *not* going to be restored, but perhaps there's > another way to accomplish your goal. > > What if CPAN::Reporter had an option to copy *you* instead? E.g. > > cc_self = default:ask/no pass/na:no > > Then if you are testing manually and want to contact the author directly > (not via centralized notification), then you can copy yourself and then > forward the report to the author (or the RT queue). > > It requires two steps, yes, but is less likely to result in automated > author spam by users who don't realize the implications of "cc_author".
This does not sound too bad. What about the "edit report" option? Is it still necessary? Does anybody (besides me) use it? Regards, Slaven -- Slaven Rezic - slaven <at> rezic <dot> de tktimex - time recording tool http://sourceforge.net/projects/ptktools/
Subject: Re: [rt.cpan.org #39484] Enable CC again
Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2008 19:35:31 -0500
To: bug-CPAN-Reporter [...] rt.cpan.org
From: "David Golden" <dagolden [...] cpan.org>
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On Mon, Nov 17, 2008 at 6:11 PM, slaven@rezic.de via RT <bug-CPAN-Reporter@rt.cpan.org> wrote: Show quoted text
> What about the "edit report" option? Is it still necessary? Does > anybody (besides me) use it?
I do occasionally on manual installs/testing, particularly when the cause of failure is obvious (e.g. forward slashes not backslashes on windows). -- David
CPAN Testers no longer uses email, so this wishlist item is moot. Closing the ticket.


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