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Subject: Cannot be built in a way suitable for including in binary distributions
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Hi, I'm writing this as one of the members of the Debian pkg-perl group. There is interest in having this module packaged for Debian GNU/Linux - But as the build process is structured right now, it is impossible to do so. It boils down that, as our software is auto-built and must be completely buildable from our archive's sources, we cannot download GP/PARI's sources at build time. I tried specifying the directory where our libpari-dev include files are (/usr/include/pari), but your build script insists on having PARI's test suite - Please refer to our bug report (http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=440527) for fuller details. Our request is simple: Would it be possible to build this module with only the include files, specifying it _not_ to require the test suite, having only the includes? Thank you very much!
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On Wed, Nov 07, 2007 at 12:21:07PM -0500, Gunnar Wolf via RT wrote: Show quoted text
> I'm writing this as one of the members of the Debian pkg-perl group. > There is interest in having this module packaged for Debian GNU/Linux - > But as the build process is structured right now, it is impossible to do > so. It boils down that, as our software is auto-built and must be > completely buildable from our archive's sources, we cannot download > GP/PARI's sources at build time. I tried specifying the directory where > our libpari-dev include files are (/usr/include/pari), but your build > script insists on having PARI's test suite - Please refer to our bug > report (http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=440527) for > fuller details. > Our request is simple: Would it be possible to build this module with > only the include files, specifying it _not_ to require the test suite, > having only the includes? > Thank you very much!
If you feel fine shipping a broken module, it makes sense to disable the test suite. Just do not run 'make test'. Does this answer your question? Yours, Ilya
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On Wed Nov 07 20:30:30 2007, nospam-abuse@ilyaz.org wrote: Show quoted text
> If you feel fine shipping a broken module, it makes sense to disable > the test suite. Just do not run 'make test'. > > Does this answer your question?
No, sorry for not being explicit enough - I'm copying from my Debian report - libpari-dev is the package which contains the PARI development headers (i.e. /usr/include/pari): Curiously, the package does not build even with libpari-dev installed - It _does_ require the full sources (i.e. the test suite, at least): ------------------------------------------------------------ $ perl Makefile.PL paridir=/usr/include/pari/ Setting up Math::Pari with Perl 5.008008 on linux version 2.6.17-2-vserver-amd64; cc=cc, gccversion=4.2.3 20071014 (prerelease) (Debian 4.2.2-3), ccflags='-D_REENTRANT -D_GNU_SOURCE -DTHREADS_HAVE_PIDS -DDEBIAN -fno-strict-aliasing -pipe -I/usr/local/include -D_LARGEFILE_SOURCE -D_FILE_OFFSET_BITS=64', ld=cc, ldflags=' -L/usr/local/lib', optimize='-O2'. Could not extract version from '/usr/include/pari/config/version'; Do you remember that paridir should be location of PARI/GP source tree, not the location of compiled+installed files? Trying extract from the directory name... Directory `/usr/include/pari' has unknown syntax... Found GP/PARI build directory in /usr/include/pari (integer-formatted version /usr/include/pari). Cannot find tests in /usr/include/pari/src/test/in: No such file or directory at utils/Math/PariBuild.pm line 513. ------------------------------------------------------------
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On Thu, Nov 08, 2007 at 10:38:51AM -0500, Gunnar Wolf via RT wrote: Show quoted text
> > Queue: Math-Pari > Ticket <URL: http://rt.cpan.org/Ticket/Display.html?id=30552 > > > On Wed Nov 07 20:30:30 2007, nospam-abuse@ilyaz.org wrote:
> > If you feel fine shipping a broken module, it makes sense to disable > > the test suite. Just do not run 'make test'. > > > > Does this answer your question?
> > No, sorry for not being explicit enough - I'm copying from my Debian > report - libpari-dev is the package which contains the PARI development > headers (i.e. /usr/include/pari): > > Curiously, the package does not build even with libpari-dev installed
I do not see why this is "curious". Show quoted text
> - It _does_ require the full sources (i.e. the test suite, at least):
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> ------------------------------------------------------------ > $ perl Makefile.PL paridir=/usr/include/pari/ > Setting up Math::Pari with Perl 5.008008 on linux version > 2.6.17-2-vserver-amd64; > cc=cc, gccversion=4.2.3 20071014 (prerelease) (Debian 4.2.2-3), > ccflags='-D_REENTRANT -D_GNU_SOURCE -DTHREADS_HAVE_PIDS -DDEBIAN > -fno-strict-aliasing -pipe -I/usr/local/include -D_LARGEFILE_SOURCE > -D_FILE_OFFSET_BITS=64', > ld=cc, ldflags=' -L/usr/local/lib', optimize='-O2'. > Could not extract version from '/usr/include/pari/config/version'; > > Do you remember that paridir should be location of PARI/GP source tree, > not the location of compiled+installed files?
Does not this answer your questions? Show quoted text
> Trying extract from the directory name... > Directory `/usr/include/pari' has unknown syntax... > Found GP/PARI build directory in /usr/include/pari > (integer-formatted version /usr/include/pari). > Cannot find tests in /usr/include/pari/src/test/in: No such file or > directory at utils/Math/PariBuild.pm line 513. > ------------------------------------------------------------
This is just the tip of the iceberg... Sorry to sound pedantic, but I still have no idea what it is you wanted to communicate about. [There is a (quite small) chance that Math::Pari build can be performed when only libpari-dev is available. Do you want to check for this chance, or what? In which way I may be useful to you?] Thanks, Ilya
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On Thu, Nov 08, 2007 at 04:49:47PM -0500, Ilya Zakharevich via RT wrote: Show quoted text
> Sorry to sound pedantic, but I still have no idea what it is you > wanted to communicate about. [There is a (quite small) chance that > Math::Pari build can be performed when only libpari-dev is available.
Oups, I see that I was not clear enough. Let us rewrite it as There is a (quite small) chance that Math::Pari build could be performed (given appropriate modifications of Math::PariBuild module) when only libpari-dev is available. Yours, Ilya
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On Thu Nov 08 16:57:38 2007, nospam-abuse@ilyaz.org wrote: Show quoted text
> > Oups, I see that I was not clear enough. Let us rewrite it as > > There is a (quite small) chance that Math::Pari build could be > performed (given appropriate modifications of Math::PariBuild > module) when only libpari-dev is available. >
Well, the internal bundling against libpari goes against Gentoo QA guidelines as well. Please consider supporting the build against an installed copy (with dynamic linking). See e.g. for a years-old blog post, https://blog.flameeyes.eu/2009/01/bundling-libraries-for-despair-and-insecurity/
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On Wed, Dec 28, 2016 at 10:46:05AM -0500, Andreas K. Hüttel via RT wrote: Show quoted text
> Queue: Math-Pari > Ticket <URL: https://rt.cpan.org/Ticket/Display.html?id=30552 > > > On Thu Nov 08 16:57:38 2007, nospam-abuse@ilyaz.org wrote:
> > > > Oups, I see that I was not clear enough. Let us rewrite it as > > > > There is a (quite small) chance that Math::Pari build could be > > performed (given appropriate modifications of Math::PariBuild > > module) when only libpari-dev is available. > >
> > Well, the internal bundling against libpari goes against Gentoo QA guidelines as well. Please consider supporting the build against an installed copy (with dynamic linking).
This is very close to being out of question. First, one needs to be able to build with a supported distribution IN ANY WAY — which is with very high priority on my TODO list — but it is there for almost a decade! Show quoted text
This is extremely long and unclear; practically unreadable. My conjecture is that it boils down to “Fix all the problems you see upstream, so there is a hope of resolving all the newly discovered problems in a timely manner”. Is there anything else there? Yours, Ilya P.S. In addition to supporting a contemporary version, I would need to link agains a (non-supplied) private header file. I presume that supplying such a header file (or a replacement?) with Math::PARI would not contradict the distribution guidelines?


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