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Id: 29451
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Queue: Sys-Syslog

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Owner: SAPER [...] cpan.org
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Severity: Important
Broken in: 0.17
Fixed in: 0.22



Subject: Missing copyright information
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Hi, I am a member of Debian Perl Group -- a team for maintaining Perl module packages in Debian. While preparing the package of the 0.21 release, I noticed that presently, there is no information about Sys-Syslog's copyright holders in the docs (or anywhere I looked for it). The only related thing is the license (same as Perl), but this is not enough. It would be very nice if you can add information about copyright holders to the distribution. Something like: Copyright (C) $years Holder Name <mail> (repeated for each copyright holder) Thank you in advance, dam
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Subject: [rt.cpan.org #29451] Missing copyright information
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Damyan Ivanov wrote: Show quoted text
> Hi,
Hello Damyan, Show quoted text
> I am a member of Debian Perl Group -- a team for maintaining Perl > module > packages in Debian. While preparing the package of the 0.21 release, I > noticed that presently, there is no information about Sys-Syslog's > copyright holders in the docs (or anywhere I looked for it). > > The only related thing is the license (same as Perl), but this is not > enough.
I'll restate here what I already explained to Dominique Dumont in a private message. First, this is not *my* module: it's a module from the Perl core, which was dual-lifed in december 2005 in order to address a security hole, and I was picked up to be its happy maintainer. So I maintain the module since then, but parts of the code dates back from 1990. The authors who contributed code to this module are listed, in chronological order, in the "AUTHORS & ACKNOWLEDGEMENTS" section of the documentation, the first ones being Tom Christiansen and Larry Wall.. Looking at the source in Perl 4, it seems to have been originally written by Tom Christiansen. So, I'm not sure what is the correct thing to do here: - put one Copyright line with "Larry Wall and others", as it's the case in Perl's README - put one Copyright line with "Tom Christiansen and others", as Tom is the first author - put a bunch of Copyright lines with years and authors as it's the case in Net::Pcap[1], except knowing how to attribute the years to authors won't be trivial (except for the last two years) Not being the original author, I'll send a mail to the Perl 5 Porters with Cc: to the Perl Foundation, as they are the best people to answer such a question. I'll keep you informed as soon as I have an answer by completing this ticket. By the way, thanks for packaging Sys::Syslog (and in my case, I can assure that I don't plan to sue Debian ;-) [1] http://search.cpan.org/dist/Net-Pcap/Pcap.pm#COPYRIGHT -- Sébastien Aperghis-Tramoni Close the world, txEn eht nepO.
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Hello, Show quoted text
> Not being the original author, I'll send a mail to the Perl 5 > Porters with Cc: to the Perl Foundation, as they are the best > people to answer such a question. > > I'll keep you informed as soon as I have an answer by completing > this ticket.
I received an answer. The Copyright for Sys::Syslog is Copyright (C) 1990-2007 by Larry Wall and others. I'll probably make a release soon in order to address CPAN-RT#29875. -- Sébastien Aperghis-Tramoni Close the world, txEn eht nepO.
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-=| Sébastien Aperghis-Tramoni via RT, Wed, Oct 10, 2007 at 03:08:18AM -0400 |=- Show quoted text
> > Not being the original author, I'll send a mail to the Perl 5 > > Porters with Cc: to the Perl Foundation, as they are the best > > people to answer such a question. > > > > I'll keep you informed as soon as I have an answer by completing > > this ticket.
> > I received an answer. The Copyright for Sys::Syslog is > > Copyright (C) 1990-2007 by Larry Wall and others.
Great! Thank you very much tor taking the issue seriously. Show quoted text
> I'll probably make a release soon in order to address CPAN-RT#29875.
It would be nice if you can update the (c) statements as well. Re: RT#29875: we had a bugreport about this in Debian[1], and we used the $^O approach. Now I see how this was wrong in both not reporting it to you and implementing that quick-and-dirty "fix". I posted there another idea for avoiding fiddling with caller's $@. -- dam JabberID: dam@jabber.minus273.org
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Damyan Ivanov wrote: Show quoted text
> > I received an answer. The Copyright for Sys::Syslog is > > > > Copyright (C) 1990-2007 by Larry Wall and others.
> > Great! Thank you very much tor taking the issue seriously. >
> > I'll probably make a release soon in order to address CPAN-RT#29875.
> > It would be nice if you can update the (c) statements as well.
It's already done: http://svnweb.mongueurs.net/Sys-Syslog/revision/?rev=149 Did you think I would just give you the answer without putting it in the documentation? Show quoted text
> Re: RT#29875: we had a bugreport about this in Debian[1], and we used > the $^O approach. Now I see how this was wrong in both not reporting it > to you and implementing that quick-and-dirty "fix".
I can't say I like to receive new bug tickets of course, but I prefer to know when there's a bug than to try discover how people code around the bugs and don't upgrade because of fear from the module. The less differences there are between the CPAN version and the Debian package, the better for everybody. Also, between CPAN Testers and the Perl smokers, Sys::Syslog is tested on various combinations of operating systems and architectures, which really help for code using $^O for example. » http://cpantesters.perl.org/show/Sys-Syslog.html#Sys-Syslog-0.21 And before release, I test Sys::Syslog on Linux, Darwin, FreeBSD, and now Cygwin and Win32 as well. -- Sébastien Aperghis-Tramoni Close the world, txEn eht nepO.
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Sys::Syslog 0.22, just uploaded on the CPAN, contains the copyright information. -- Sébastien Aperghis-Tramoni Close the world, txEn eht nepO.


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